Ray Frankz

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  How Many Witnesses Would Really Take Blood?

  by minimus in

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  up until the very end, my mother refused blood.

  it didn't matter if it was a blurred line or not, the bible says "no blood"!

  i wonder if she was in the minority, in her thinking.

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  I disagree with Konceptual. I don't really know why but the JW take the Blood issue way more seriously than any other teaching from the WT. I have seen not few cases of people who were disfellowshipped or inactive who didn't take blood.

  By the way, I always thought that it's easier to "plan" not to take blood in a previously set surgery, for example. I believe, however, that in case of an accident and they need the blood just to stay alive until the doctors finish the surgery in the spur of the moment, it's not so simple to stick to their "morals".
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  "We don't venerate idols or images!"

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  how often did we as witnesses say something like this : "unlike members of false religion, who venerate or worship through statues or idols, we give our focus to jehovah!".

  members of religious groups focus their religious adoration via an image or statue.

  they do this in order to provide some sort of focus to their need to worship.. witnesses give extreme focus on the name "jehovah" .

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  It's simple. Ask them if they can imagine worshipping God without the Org, the publications or the Kingdom Hall. Then tell them that's the same feeling the Catholics have for their little statues.
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  One more new light becoming 'old darkness'

  by Ray Frankz in

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  well, we are studying the book of daniel in the meetings now, and this week was the reading about the four beasts and the goat etc.. i got suprised that the sources didn't include any page of the wt book pay attention to daniel's prophecy,.

  my only guess is that they have already changed something too big to take the risk of a average witness go searching and start to make questions about their allegedly inspiration..

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  Well, we are studying the book of Daniel in the meetings now, and this week was the reading about the four beasts and the goat etc.

  I got suprised that the sources didn't include any page of the WT book Pay attention to Daniel's Prophecy,

  My only guess is that they have already changed something too big to take the risk of a average witness go searching and start to make questions about their allegedly inspiration.
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  Special event this weekend

  by TweetieBird in

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  was talking with a family member today and they said that there is something special going on at the kh this weekend.

  any idea what it is?

  they said that some kind of broadcast from bethel for everyone..

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  Darkspilver

  So, I have no Idea of something abnormal going on. Maybe it's just there in the US.

  About the 'TV' talk, I'm pretty sure that it will be a branch commitee member to give the talk in everywhere it's possible to broadcast. I thought that in the US it could be a GB member.
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  Special event this weekend

  by TweetieBird in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  was talking with a family member today and they said that there is something special going on at the kh this weekend.

  any idea what it is?

  they said that some kind of broadcast from bethel for everyone..

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  The "new" thing is that the Special talk that is given near the time of the celebration will be now given by a branch representative or governing body member and then everybody will watch through the screen.
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  Do they take the GB seriously?

  by Tech49 in

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  so this is an honest question that i have been thinking about for some time.. do regular jehovahś witnesses in other countries (other than the usa) take the governing body in new york seriously?.

  i mean, i cant help but wonder about the publishers in japan, or south africa, or mexico, or new zealand, or even the uk, or spain, or italy...... or russia?.

  not you and i (we know what you think of them), but the regular jwś...... do they take these american buffoons seriously?

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  Circular reasoning. They are trained to believe Jehovah uses "a" group of men in the US. Not "this" group of men. That's why most don't care about their flaws. They see them as normal people who are now with the "superpower" of governing body-ness.

  I could tell that even if all the holy seven were replaced in a month, most of the JW would make up a reason of what Jehovah did that, join this make up explanation with the "official" one that would come from the new GB and move on, now being slaves of seven different people.
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  youngest baptised.

  by zeb in

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  what is the youngest you have seen someone baptised?

  i recall seeing a 9 yo girl baptised..

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  Interesting, they state that the two most important steps in anyone's life are the baptism and the marriage. however, They urge to baptize people as young as possible but try to cut off any sign of love or sexual interest that could lead to the marriage "until being mature enough". Double standards.
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  youngest baptised.

  by zeb in

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  what is the youngest you have seen someone baptised?

  i recall seeing a 9 yo girl baptised..

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  I was baptized in the week I was going to turn 9
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  Orwellian change of the history(Again)

  by Ray Frankz in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  well, this month's jw broadcasting had a curious piece of history class.

  samuel herd was there, but i don't remember if it was him that presented it.

  the theme was "how it was to be a jw in the years 1900.".

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  Drearyweather,

  It's shown the leaflet written "Millions now living will never die". But you are right at this point, I "assumed" the speech was from the Millions, don't know for sure.
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  September 7, 2017 Re: Donations for Disaster Relief Work

  by wifibandit in

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  september 7, 2017 to all congregations in the united states branch territory re: donations for disaster relief work.

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  Ray Frankz

  Whats that scripture that says something like when you see someone in need you just say go in peace without lifting a finger to help them ?

  The WT doesn't give a f about the letter of James. The letter of James is full of practical advice and they rarely use these scriptures. Only to talk about the "danger of the bad talking" (when pp are talking against the elders) or to use the part to "call in the elders" to justify the authority to judge sins.